Recent Discussions
[Lovestruck] Rotational players, please beware "Romantic satisfaction decay"
If you played with many households/families in your save (rotational players), did you ever have an issue that "romantic satisfaction" (Ex, [Sim1] romantic feeling about [Sim2]) dropped to be "Very Unsatisfied" even if it was neutral or better before. That is because Romantic satisfaction can decay in both active and inactive households. Just do nothing about love can finally make their relationship bitter. Like this... Why do they look sad? This is the reason. I haven't played the Laurent household before, and this couple didn't have a bitter relationship before as well. But now, not only this couple, every couple that is generated after installing Lovestruck pack will be like this after you play the game for over a week. (I mean, if you start a new save after having this pack --> every couple will be affected) ---- This "Unsatified" will make a sad moodlet to them and make them sad. And it's really bad that you can't stop every couple's decay without mod. (Glad that there is a mod, I will mention later.) This would be so much trouble for the rotational player! ---- However, this seems to be related to another issue... "Too many "Lovestruck" couples everywhere!" This issue I opened discussion here --> https://forums.ea.com/discussions/the-sims-4-feedback-en/too-many-lovestruck-couples-everywhere/4958170 I want to prove my speculation about the reason why the game with Lovestruck EP keeps spawning couples to the lot (and mostly sit on the bench to look at the sky). And then I found that... this might be the system to solve the Romantic Satisfaction decay. The way this system solves the issue is... to make them improve the Romantic Satisfaction while being a background NPC. Without a mod to prevent them, players who have Lovestruck will be many couples doing romantic things while being the lot. Most of them are "sky gazing". I wonder if these interactions will help fix their unsatisfied romantic feelings or not. The answer is... YES. From "Very Unsatisfied" before they appeared in the park as background lover... To be "Unsatisfied" the next day when I recheck them. ---- So, I believed that the game uses this system to keep NPC couples still being satisfied with romantic feelings, while the game has a decay system for every sim in the game. If you prevent "Lovestruck couples" in the lot, the outcome will be "everyone will be very unsatisfied." This is a very bad method to deal with, in my opinion. Inactive couples' satisfaction shouldn't decay too quickly like this. It's impossible to manage every family if you're rotational players! And to fix by using many couples invading the neighborhood isn't a good solution! ------------- Fortunately, there is a mod to fix this "decay". Lovestruck: Romantic Satisfaction: No Time Decay by Lumpinou https://www.patreon.com/posts/mod-per-request-109503418 This mod will remove decay completely, including active household. So, you can play rotation with peace. And even a single household player won't worry that NPC couples will be sad with the decay they can't prevent. **I haven't tested myself yet because I found out today, but I think it will work** (There is a mod for stopping decay only in inactive households, but it's in the mod hub that seems to require making an account, so I won't mention) -------------- That's all I know for now. Sorry for such a long post. I want to share this because I don't like to have couples invade the community lots but I don't want them to be sad because "satisfaction decay" as well. I may misunderstand something because this is just my observation. I'm not the modder, so I don't know any code deeper than what can be shown in "MCCC" and "Show Sim Info" mod. If you have the same experience or have something different, please let me know.
WHY in Business and Hobbies can we only sell items placed on special shelving??
I just found out that in order to sell anything in this DLC, it must be placed on the provided shelving units. I own Get to Work, and in that pack you can mark items for sale regardless of what they're placed on. Why is this not possible here? I specifically bought this DLC to sell repaired electronics, handmade furniture, and similar items. I’m extremely disappointed that such a basic feature—selling items—is this restricted. There are so many crafting and repair activities in the game now, but they don’t work with the business features of this DLC. What’s the point of adding all this content if we can’t even sell it properly? Please fix this. This is not just a missing feature, it feels like a major design oversight.
Pack Ideas!
These are not something that I think should be acted on immediately as theres a lot more to be worked on in other areas of the game before getting new stuff in my opinion, but even so i have a few stuff/game pack ideas! Firstly, Sports! I think it would be really nice to have a pack that adds some big sport items into the game such as tennis courts, volleyball courts, golf and stuff like that, it could also be a chance for more cute workout CAS items to be added, which i think are kind of lacking. Secondly, Bands! I know a lot of people have been asking for this and it's for good reason! I try to make fake bands a lot in my gameplay, usually by just creating a group from get together, but its hard to get everyone to play at the same time especially when your bandmates are in other households, I think it'd be really fun if there was some kind of set "stage" item like how it is in The Sims 3 Showtime, where you can set what instruments every sim plays in the band and have them practice/ perform a song together, there could be tie-in with the get famous fame system and some cool stuff with having to work on your bands relationship to be good or it'll break up, also the stage could have various options of a more garage band practice style stage to a big rock band performance stage and all the things inbetween. This pack could also obviously add new instruments such as drums, saxophone, electric guitar and way more. I feel like it'd make sense for the vibe to focus on a kind of smalltown rock band aesthetic for CAS and build/buy because I think thats what most people envision when you say bands, but of course sims could have any music genre they want. Thirdly, Arcades! When I got the new businesses and hobbies pack one of my first ideas for a business was a cute arcade for my sims to visit as its something ive always wanted to have, but theres only really one 'arcade' machine type item which is super big and i couldn't really find anything else that fit my idea, i tried to put a tv with a console, voidcritters and the vr game mats but it just didn't work, i think it'd be cute to have a fun stuff pack (Or it could even be just a kit I suppose...) that adds arcade machines and other stuff that fits in with that, pool tables, slot machines, maybe even a prize counter! Complete with the iconic arcade carpet and 80s themed build/buy/cas i think it'd be a super fun pack that would be fun for children-elders, there could even be something for toddlers? Thanks for reading, I know this was a lot! 💚
[Business & Hobbies] Funds Tracking
Business and Hobbies is an amazing pack, and many of my sims families have their own businesses. That said, it would be nice to now have a financial tracker per sim. This will help when splitting funds and investing in other things for multiple working sims in a household. As of now, all money earned goes into the family funds, which is fine. However, this also makes it difficult to keep track of which sim made how much money, and what and how much they can invest and buy. Currently I do this manually, and its a pain, and I often miss things. For example, I have a teen sim who makes royalties off of music tracks, as well as works part time in her fathers tech store. She would like to save up money to move out and then invest in her own dj/club business one day. It would be nice to not have to manually keep track of all funds she has made/contributed to the family funds. I would like to keep it realistic when she moves, working her way through her own hard work. Perhaps add a row in the simology sims stats window that shows individually made money/contributions for that specific sim?
Can we have more hair colours? (and maybe seperate things in other categories?)
Someone shared natural versions so i won't touch that one New Hair Colors You Wanna See in the Game ? | EA Forums - 11944786 We need a few more natural hair colours but we especially need more unnatural/fantasy hair colours All unnatural hair colours in 1 colour only We also need option we can edit one side of the hair as a new category rather then go straight to the hair options (like they did with skintones and faces which used to be in 1 category) and seperate that version to the other hair option (maybe with the name like double hair colour or something) I just came up with something thanks to someone in the comment and it's about adding highlights, i think it should be at the same category as double hair colour but you do need to scroll a bit just like with skintones to find them It's sometimes hard to scroll which only has 1 hair colour so i've thought about that solution And maybe seperate hair accesoires that's in one hair at this moment too and add a category called "hair accesoires" so we can find things easier too (i'm not talking about hats, we already have that seperate category so that don't count, i meant more like 1 item from island living which has flowers accesoires in its hair, 1 or 2 from cottage living, one from city living to name a few there are a few other packs with accesoires which has some kind of accesoires in its hairs in it) The hairs we have without accesoires nor double colours should just be called "hairstyles" (meaning it only has 1 hair colour...hair bands, ponytails, braids and buns included not just loose or straight hairs like i make it sounds like, i do think we should have more colour options for those i mentioned especially hair bands and buns) Hopefully some older packs gets its redemption which only has 2 hair colours in it like "Get Together" and "Cats & Dogs" to name 2 packs this way with my ideas We need sliders with the hair options to make it lighter and/or darker too just like they did make-up and skintones An another one i came up with is to seperate natural and unnatural hair colours the way they did with skintones so it has their own versions yet in the same category I made 2 similair post that's CAS related Can we have more unnatural skintones? | EA Forums - 12099159 based on skintones Can we have more eye colours options as basegame update? | EA Forums - 11895483 based on eye colours You should take a look at it with both of these links from below Also forgive me if i added natural hair colours by accident too, it was supposed to be for unnatural/fantasy hair colours I know it's hard to implement them all, they're just ideas the team can add in basegame
Updated Neighborhood Stories (marry, divorce, join+create another household)
Currently, while Neighborhood Stories allows for some changes like having babies, adopting, retiring, and moving in or out etc. there are a few important features missing that would help families grow and evolve naturally. Here are some features I would love to see added: ▪️Marriage: Sims should be able to marry autonomously, even if the player is not controlling their household. This would allow families to continue expanding without the player’s direct involvement. ▪️Divorce: Sims should be able to autonomously divorce if their relationship status changes. This would allow for more realistic family dynamics. ▪️Moving Out & Creating New Households: Teens and young adults should have the option to leave their households and create their own households, even without player intervention. This would allow Sims to continue to live their own lives, meet new Sims, and start their own families. ▪️Joining Another Household: Sims should be able to join other households, either through marriage or through other life changes. This could give rise to new family combinations and interactions. These additions would help make Neighborhood Stories more dynamic and allow Sims to live fuller lives without the player constantly managing every household. Sims could form relationships, start families, and grow old without needing direct control, allowing for organic development of family trees and more immersive storytelling. By adding these options like “Get Married,” “Divorce,” “Move Out,” “Join Another Household,” and “Create Another Household,” The Sims 4 could bring a more realistic experience of life for all Sims, even those who are not being directly played.Realistic Pregnancy Update + Infant Stuff Pack
1- Pacifiers 2- Strollers 3-Bottle warmer 4-New cribs and bassinets 5-Plain white default onesie for newborns(green one with butterfly looks so bad) 6-Infant clothes/accessories/headbands 7-Ultrasound Scan 8-Pregnancy cravings 9-Abortion 10-Chance of Miscarriage (it can be optional) 11-Chance of Unexpected Pregnancy (it can be optional) (woohooing can cause pregnancy rarely) 12-Infants can be calmer with pacifiers. 13-Baby bottles with realistic interections including different types of milk (formula, breast milk) 14-We need strollers even if it's not functional and works just like crib i want them. 15-New career : Nanny (we can go households' homes and take care of babies when parents are gone.) 16-Shop for baby (parents can buy clothes, pacifiers, onesies etc.) 17-Swaddling blankets for newborns and infantsBlocking Dishonesty
I've started blocking people on the gallery, that preach about in-game honestly, while lying about their own work, and post sims (or lots) on the gallery with the title 'Basegame' when they obviously have cc, sliders and-or mods used. Some many think it's silly, but it's super annoying to me. I was hoping by blocking them I would stop seeing their stuff, but it didn't work. Any way to not see this stuff ?Farm Animal Needs Should Decay Slower
It's almost impossible to raise a big family in farm. When you have small children and animals in farm, game is so challenging. Cow, llama, Horse, Sheep, Goat and Hen hunger, attention and hygine needs should decay slower at least 2-3x times slower. Like LittleMsSam's mod, Sims team should implement this in game.
Large Family Bed and more please!!
I would like to see a variety of large beds added to the game. By large bed I mean one that can sleep three or four. I have a large family, including pets, and there just should be room for everyone. It makes my sim's husbands cranky to always have someone sleeping on the couch and the cats get rather disgruntled when they have to get off the bed so people can sleep. I have pet beds around the bed but they do not want to sleep on them. Help me out EA! I mean it is kind of your fault that I have these problems :) Oh, and can you please also make beds upgradeable energy and comfort wise. There are so many cool beds but I rarely use anything but the best because they replenish energy faster. It sucks because I want to use other beds and not have every sim family I play have all the same looking houses and furniture. I do not think this is an unreasonable request. For sure it can add in additional gameplay when it comes to handiness. My sims can buy parts to upgrade all kinds of things so you could add in a new part and upgrade option on all the beds. Or take the woodworking bench away and make carpentry a profession. I say this because I have at least one sim I can think of who is rather snobbish and doesn't want to be handy or crafty. I guess what I mean to say is this, and I will use handiness as an example. Sims can learn to be handy but I think there should also be an option under "hire services", in which my sim could call and pay an NPC to come do upgrades on their house and furniture. And for the love of the game please, please add in being able to hire dog walkers and pet groomers. My butler REFUSES to pick up piles of cat hair. My sim brushes the cat a lot but apparently it isn't often enough. She does not have time with a job, two husbands and three children to brush the darn cat anymore. And the family doesn't have a dog because the dogs are always so unhappy about not getting walked enough. And before someone says it, I know there is a mod that I can use to do that but it doesn't work that well. Aaaah which reminds me.... Gates and doors. Part of the problem with the dog walking mod is my locking security. My family is famous and keeping people out is a real chore. So I lock it up and allow household only, block all pets because I find they get sick more often if they can wander. The dogs can't run away because they're unhappy about not being walked if they can't get out too. However, if I invite people over, the gate still blocks them even if they are invited. I give a good friend a key to the residence and they cannot get in part the gate security. I throw a party and the guests can't get in unless I unlock the gate. During that time the paparazzi, neighbors, stans and whoever else wants to annoy my sims can get in. It just isn't fun so I don't find myself doing the things that I want to do because everything is such a pain in the rear when I do. This is all I have for now. I am sure there is more but these things are what impact my every day gameplay and would make things so much more fun if they were implemented. I don't know if this is the best place to make requests so if there is a better place do let me know. I feel very passionate about these things :)
New Kit/Pack Ideas
Pregnancy/Parenthood Overhaul: Infant items like strollers, bouncers, pacifiers, baby walkers with wheels, etc. Realistic pregnancy aspects, such as baby kicks, mood swings, birthing options, ultrasounds, longer pregnancies, and even postpartum symptoms/experiences. Interactions between spouses, like foot massages, pregnancy cuddles, and variety in announcement reactions. Maternity Kit: Self-explanatory. Clothes for expecting mothers, and some small items like pregnancy pillows and yoga balls.About More Hair Colors + Improved Hair Genetics
I think The Sims 4 needs new hair colors and improves the genetics system for hair inheritance. Currently, even the horses have more swatches than Sims, and hair color inheritance is very limited—children can only inherit their parents' exact hair colors, with no variation beyond that. It would be great if hair genetics worked similarly to eye color, where traits can mix and lead to more natural variations like you can get green eyes when parent has hazel eyes. For example, a child of black-haired parents could have dark brown hair, or a child of light brown-haired parents could have dark blonde hair. Shades of auburn and copper could also transition into richer or lighter versions instead of being strictly limited to the parent's exact color. This change would add more realism and diversity to families, preventing the hair color system from feeling too repetitive. I hope you consider expanding the hair color selection and improving genetics in a future update.New Hair Color Swatches in 2025? Even horses have more shades...
Since we won't get sims 5 and sims 4 will stay for years. When we will get new hair colors? What you guys think? Even horses have more shades for hair... Also they need to update hair genetics. Black haired parent can have dark brown haired children, light brown haired parent can have dark blonde haired children etc.Your Sims 4 2025-2026 Wishlists?
Let me start with my list; ▪️Updated Neighborhood Stories 1-Marry 2-Divorce 3-Join+Create another household options ▪️More Eye and Hair Colors + Improved Genetics (dominant_recessive genes) ▪️Realistic Pregnancy + Infant Stuff Pack 1- Pacifiers 2- Strollers 3-Bottle warmer 4-New cribs and bassinets 5-Plain white default onesie for newborns(green one with butterfly looks so bad) 6-Infant clothes/accessories/headbands 7-Ultrasound Scan 8-Pregnancy cravings 9-Abortion 10-Chance of Miscarriage (it can be optional) 11-Chance of Unexpected Pregnancy (it can be optional) (woohooing can cause pregnancy rarely) 12-Infants can be calmer with pacifiers. 13-Baby bottles with realistic interections including different types of milk (formula, breast milk) 14-We need strollers even if it's not functional and works just like crib i want them. 15-New career : Nanny (we can go households and take care of babies when parents are gone.)16-Shop for baby (parents can buy clothes, pacifiers, onesies etc.) 17-Swaddling blankets for newborns and infants ▪️Pet Kit with Dog Kennels and more Pet Beds (fancier ones) ▪️Free Kits for Culture/Diversity(Turkish,Greek,Italian,Arabian,Caribbean,African etc.) ▪️Selecting More Than One Household in Manage Households Screen ▪️Interchangible CAS Columns and Hide Option 2-3-4-5 ▪️New Cas Background with Mirror ▪️3 New Hair Style Kits Straight, Wavy and Afro ▪️Updated family trees ▪️Natural Looking Eyelashes for Every Age Group ▪️Burglars in base game ✅ ▪️Arabic and African Worlds ▪️Medieval Royalty Expansion Pack ▪️My Plastic Surgeries Game Pack Successful & unsuccessful surgeries, bandages, solarium for tanning, recovery operation, original genetics are protected for children ▪️Cars in basegame Cars like in The Sims 2. We'll place them on the road or in the garage, then get in when going somewhere, and there will be loading screens . Taxi, school bus, police car (for burglars), ambulance car (for pregnant woman) also should be in basegame ▪️Better and modern looking phone (kinda Iphone looking one) ▪️Slower Farm Animal Needs ▪️Better Looking Default Underwear for Female Sims ▪️More Voice Types and Accents for Sims ▪️Bundle for Kits ▪️Forever Free Packs ▪️Owning more than 1 house ▪️Supermarkets and Grocery Stores ▪️Mermaid Crib ▪️Functional Broom that can work with Bust the Dust kit ▪️Cottagecore Dress Kit ▪️Cas hairstyle update (corrected hair texture categories, straight, wavy, curly and afro) ▪️Noise Sensivity Sims should react to noise or loud activities around them (waking up from sleep when tv is open or when vacuum cleaner is working etc.) ▪️Turkish Language Addition Please, comment your list.Too many "Lovestruck" couples everywhere!
[Edit 2024-10-10 -> Adding the pic which represents the topic name better] I knew there was a similar discussion. However, I haven't found any discussion about this issue about "everywhere" yet. So, I start a new one with the information from my testing with my saved file. (Disclaimer: My save is modded, has MCCC, and has "Show Sim Info" to get info.) I visited a park in Chestnut Ridge and found a couple named Roswell who live in Strangerville. It's so lovely, isn't it? But there are some strange things about this. If you have Strangerville GP, you will know that... Townies who live in Strangerville "rarely" spawned outside their world. Some places have exceptions about region limits such as restaurants, bowling lots (team members with uniforms), gossipers in Finchwick Fair, etc. You can't find them appearing outside without a special role. Then I have evidence that it's a Lovestruck (EP16) issue. I used the "Show Sim Info" mod to see the name of their role and found this (red underline). This can make sure that they are spawned by the game to have a date. In another try that I played for a longer time, after a few minutes, the game spawns at least 3 couples. I saw from other players that it can reach 4 couples too. About my personal opinion. It would be cute and lovely if it's only 1-2 couples and has the more rare chance to appear such as 10-20% or 50% at most. It shouldn't be every time like the current situation. They should respect the region-limited rule if it exists. And they shouldn't appear in the place they shouldn't be such as temple ruins in Selvadorada. I think it would be better to give "EP16NPC_VenueDate" sims in a specific place to make it more special. Why don't they appear mostly in Ciudad Enamorada, the city of love? I wouldn't complain if it's like that. You can spawn as many lovers as you want in the city of love! Or I think it can be like "The Festival of Light" in Mt. Komorebi where couples from every world are spawned. It should be a collab with Seasons EP's Love Day too. I wouldn't complain much if the couple is spammed on this holiday. (But please don't give "situation outfit" to them cruelly lol.) I don't mind about the same couple appearing again and again if it's for a more special situation. This time, I can't make up my mind to play the main save until there are some mods to fix this. (Sadly I can't disable this pack because I already use the new hairstyle from this EP in my main sims because it fits him perfectly. And I'm busy lately, so I can wait longer.) That's all! Feel free to share your thoughts. I hope this will be tuned or fixed soon! P.S. I don't save this process in my main save, but I am honestly happy with Roswell for having a lovely moment time during this short period, even in the Gym! And it's so ironic that it's Love Day in my main save right now.
